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  Do you think this message would tempt me back to the loving arms of the cong?

  by HappyOutsideTheBox in

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  a 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman.

  the police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.. as it was the convention and his uber zealous, hypocritical mother- aka my sister, was going to be absent from home i called to see how he was doing.

  in the course of the conversation i referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised about him being mr grey).

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  troubled mind

  Just text her...... "Laters ,Babe"
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  Did you pick-up many people for the meetings??

  by karter in

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  2. experiences

  i was a regular taxi for alot of people.. we (wife & family) pick up one sister and her 2 children for many years ...he husband had walked out on her and we did'nt mind.. however when we were asked by the cobe wife to pick up and elderly and infermed bro a 3 day assembly (we had 3 young children) i said no.. we pased her and her daughter traviling alone to the assembly.. .

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  My Mom was asked for years to give others rides to the hall . My Dad was not a witness and always gave her crap for driving to Assemblies and out in service ,the Elders knew this ye always asked her anyways . She also had four children of her own to transport ! We had a station wagon and I remember sitting in the far back with no seat belts for years as she picked up another woman with three kids ! Sometimes she would drop us at the hall and then make an extra trip to pick this woman up if all her kids were coming ! I mean my Mom always put out the extra effort .

  When i was older she gave this scary old woman rides ,she freaked my Mom out . She complained to the Elders that she thought htis woman was demonized and finally refused giving her rides .

  Over the years she transported many single Moms to conventions and meetings . As I got older I started noticing the Elders NEVER extended themselves to this 'privilege'.

  When I left home ,and my Mom became Elderly ,she had a hard time finding people to give her lifts to the hall even though it was literaly only a few minutes from her home ! I am talking just up the hill from her house . I lived 25 minutes away and my Brother lived about the same distance in the opposite direction yet the loving shepards told us it was OUR responsibility to see she got to the meetings and assemblies . Assholes.

  My Dad would even drive her there as long as someone would bring her home ,and that was at times a challenge . This is something he throws in their faces now whenever they stop by, because he knew how many she helped out over the years . Once she became house bound it made him sick how little they came by to check on her .
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  JW Longo Story on ABC TV July 11th "Final Witness"

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings/20120611abc02/.

  final witness*.

  air date: wednesday, july 11, 2012. time slot: 10:00 pm-11:00 pm est on abc.

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  troubled mind

  OMG !!! How chilling .....

  Very accurate description about meetings and DF policy ....

  So scary he reminds me of some of the young Jws I know . No education ,but looking to have the best of everything ...worried more about appearances than anything else
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  How Did You Become An Atheist?

  by NewChapter in

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  since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.

  for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.

  i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.

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  troubled mind

  I have slowly ,naturally become an atheist over the past few years . For a long time after leaving the JWs I searched other CHristian religions ,and it was nice for a while . However over time and after much reading and thinking I just saw more of the same problems .

  Science makes sense to me religion never has fulfilled my inner questions . Believing in a magical being just seems so childish and immature to me. My whole life I have Never understood the Salvation story given to us as Christians ,seriously makes NO sense to me. I have always believed that when I die I cease to exist ,period . My body will rot and become part of the earth again . I am okay with that . Look around that IS what happens and it has been happening for a very long time . Fossil records show life has come and gone on this Earth for millions of yrs and we are just one of those epic periods .

  AMMO said ----

  " to be 'fair' one must look at all sides with an open mind, I guess I just find aetheists to be very confrontational and accusing - quick to condemn, did you change once you realised/accepted/reasoned there was no god, or did it make you a more in a way angry because of your conclusion."

  I found after leaving religion and belief in a God, I AM more open minded ,and at peace . It was my experience that people of faith have been more angry ,and uptight,especially if you question their beliefs ,even for just discussion sake . I have no desire to PROVE my belief over anyone elses......had enough of that as a JW . I am happy with my revelations ,and finally feel satisfied with the answers I have come to understand .
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  If you were raised in a home with a JW parent and a non-JW parent: a few questions

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were raised in a home with a jw parent and a non-jw parent: a few questions.. i am going to be addressing the international cultic studies association (icsa) in july at the conference in montreal.

  my focus is on 3 groups.

  the third group consists of people people who grew up in homes where one parent was a jw and the other wasn't.

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  Nugget and Dinah , you summerized the divided household experience perfectly !
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  If you were raised in a home with a JW parent and a non-JW parent: a few questions

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were raised in a home with a jw parent and a non-jw parent: a few questions.. i am going to be addressing the international cultic studies association (icsa) in july at the conference in montreal.

  my focus is on 3 groups.

  the third group consists of people people who grew up in homes where one parent was a jw and the other wasn't.

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  1. Was your non-JW parent ever a JW? ....... No, My Mother became a JW in the 1950's before I was born . My Father was following a Military career ,20 yrs in the Marine Corps .

  * Who was responsible for your religious upbringing? The JW or the non-JW? ....... My Mother the JW

  * Did they argue about it?.......Yes , my Father forbid her from going d2d on base because he did not want to be embarassed in front of his men . He would bash the JW's all the time calling them 'bible thumpers and men who speak with forked tongue ".

  * Were you forced to go? Yes , even though my Father disliked the JW's he felt religion was womens work and that children must obey the parent . It was also believed at that time children were seen not heard ,in other words we did not get a say .

  * Did the non-JW parent have any real say in how the family celebrated holidays? ........ I remember them arguing about having a Christmas tree ,he wanted one and she didn't . She finally said if he wanted one he had to do all the work ....we never had one so I guess he did not want it badly enough . He did persuade her to buy us a gift at Xmas ,but it was never wrapped and the house was not decorated . We always had a family dinner on holidays . Birthdays we got to chose what we wanted for supper and dessert .No wrapped presents ,no candles on cake and no singing Happy Bday . One time when I was 5 I begged my Dad at the supper table to let me go trick or treating for Halloween . He forced my Mom to allow me . She said she would not take me ,but relented to allow my older brothers to go with me . When she took me in the bathroom to dress me up ,she slapped me across the face and told me to NEVER go against her again when it came to holidays ....they were detestable to Jehovah and we should never do them .

  * Over all what impact did this split household have on your childhood and even later in life? ........ I was taught to never trust my Father because he was not a JW . I was taught not to confide in him or my Grandparents . I worried constantly from early childhood about him dieing in the big A . I felt abnormal from other children very anxious, and afraid most of my life . I was told at a very young age that the Military would turn on religion and that one day my Dad may even try to kill my Mom or put her in jail for her beliefs ,and that us kids would be taken away so we would have to be faithful to Jehovah on our own .......Yeah this does a major trip on a young childs mind and mental ,emotional development . I grew up feeling very alone and knowing I could never depend or trust in anyone but myself ....this has always stuck with me to this day . Which has not been all bad ,but it would have been nice to learn or feel loved and secure with in my own family .

  * What would you want therapists to know about your situation?......... I would want a therapist to understand how much my childhood molded my emotional ,mental patterns . How separate and different ,alienated from others this caused me to feel . Children should be encouraged to voice their inner thoughts and feel free to express themselves instead of swallowing all that pain and hurt .

  * Any other thoughts?...... I wonder how many others growing up this way felt torn in two trying to please a JW parent and a non JW parent ?
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  Anyone else have (or used to have) their DCs at Hawthorne Race Track in IL?

  by outsmartthesystem in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  remember the gold cup room and the "barrel seats"?

  boy....talk about brotherly love.

  when i was a kid, i worked in food prep for our hall.

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  Yes , We went to Hawthorne ,but never sat in the coveted seats that I can remember . We towed three young kids along and were always early because my husband volunteered in First Aid . I do remember watching the ducks ,LOL.

  Went to the ballpark a few times (hated it ) . We started going to Springfield instead to be with friends ( and got reprimanded for not following theocratic direction ) Finally ignored the Elders and never once went to DeKalb ,just went where ever we wanted then stopped all together .
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  Lots of JWs out at tables this morning!

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i actually stopped at two different tables that i saw.

  the first was 2 elderly men - they were so sweet and open to discuss.

  i brought up the topic of the divine name and why the wt inserted it into the nt with no evidence from greek manuscripts.

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  WAY TO GO AUNTBEE !!! It is amazing how their behavior becomes so unchristian when they are faced with thinking questions !
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  Disfellowshipped!

  by Las Malvinas son Argentinas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  libertad!

  though my story is a bit more complicated than that.

  i live in argentina.

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  troubled mind

  Well good luck with your plan dear, it does sound solid . Isn't it sad you have to go through such craziness just to have your 'loved' ones accept you again ! How totally bogus it all really is when, like you siad, you can just go off and do what you want w/o their knowledge ,but as long as the DF title is gone your good to them again .

  CRAZY STUPID RELIGION F'n up peoples lives for over 100 yrs now ! Awesome
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  LDS (Mormon) wheelers and dealers coming over tonight at 7 PST. What would you ask them?

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey jwn.

  a couple of mormon missionaries came to my house last week and i invited them in.

  what can i say, curiosity killed the cat.

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  troubled mind

  They don't stop by my house anymore Last time I told them I had just left one cult ,and would not be interested in joining theirs.

  Ask them ,if they really believe all the Church teachings ,and what would happen if they didn't any more ?

  If they could change anything about their religion what would it be ?

  What happens to Mormans that leave the church ?